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	<title>Comments on: Updating the Gravitational Focus Mission</title>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-79978</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiago, there is no need for station-keeping. The FOCAL probe continues to make observations beyond 550 AU because the focal line extends to infinity, which is one reason why a gravitational lens is so useful. As we go further out, we also have less trouble with coronal fluctuations. Stopping the probe would require additional propellant and would not result in any scientific gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiago, there is no need for station-keeping. The FOCAL probe continues to make observations beyond 550 AU because the focal line extends to infinity, which is one reason why a gravitational lens is so useful. As we go further out, we also have less trouble with coronal fluctuations. Stopping the probe would require additional propellant and would not result in any scientific gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiago</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-79976</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since 550 AU is already three days and four hours out from the Sun, perhaps letting the probe go farther and farther away is not such a good idea.  However, if the probe itself is sufficiently light, perhaps designing it as a statite (as in Dr. Forward&#039;s concept) would be enough for station-keeping without expending any fuel, just energy to vary the angle/reflectivity of the sail in parts.  Then the station-keeping problem becomes just a computational problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since 550 AU is already three days and four hours out from the Sun, perhaps letting the probe go farther and farther away is not such a good idea.  However, if the probe itself is sufficiently light, perhaps designing it as a statite (as in Dr. Forward&#8217;s concept) would be enough for station-keeping without expending any fuel, just energy to vary the angle/reflectivity of the sail in parts.  Then the station-keeping problem becomes just a computational problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Interstellar Communications, Project Icarus, Project Daedalus, Fusion Starship, interstellar travel, interstellar propulsion &#8212; Project Icarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interstellar Communications, Project Icarus, Project Daedalus, Fusion Starship, interstellar travel, interstellar propulsion &#8212; Project Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Updating the Gravitational Focus Mission, P. Gilster [Centauri Dreams] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Updating the Gravitational Focus Mission, P. Gilster [Centauri Dreams] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Capucho</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-76056</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric Capucho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, don&#039;t bother answering that one. After a bit of a rethink it&#039;s obvious that the focal point of a *less* massive object would be further away, not closer... and Jupiter&#039;s focal point would be a looooooooooong way away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm, don&#8217;t bother answering that one. After a bit of a rethink it&#8217;s obvious that the focal point of a *less* massive object would be further away, not closer&#8230; and Jupiter&#8217;s focal point would be a looooooooooong way away.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Capucho</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-76010</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric Capucho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what&#039;s the gravitational focal point of Jupiter? I can well imagine there&#039;s a minimum mass necessary to actually reach focus, but one wonders if there&#039;s somewhere a bit closer than that 550 AU...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s the gravitational focal point of Jupiter? I can well imagine there&#8217;s a minimum mass necessary to actually reach focus, but one wonders if there&#8217;s somewhere a bit closer than that 550 AU&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-73353</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronald, I hope your northern Italian experience was as positive as mine. I&#039;m sure it was.

Changing targets from star to star is obviously a major problem for a single FOCAL probe, so we have to assume a future where the cost of building such probes comes down enough for us to assign a probe to each system we want to investigate closely. Dr. Maccone favors the idea as a precursor study before any probe being sent to such a star, but as you point out,  FOCAL could also be used for distant targets like Andromeda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald, I hope your northern Italian experience was as positive as mine. I&#8217;m sure it was.</p>
<p>Changing targets from star to star is obviously a major problem for a single FOCAL probe, so we have to assume a future where the cost of building such probes comes down enough for us to assign a probe to each system we want to investigate closely. Dr. Maccone favors the idea as a precursor study before any probe being sent to such a star, but as you point out,  FOCAL could also be used for distant targets like Andromeda.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-73351</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Just back from my vacation in northern Italy; I got jealous of Paul so I went there myself with my family ;-) , and a lot of reading to catch up with, lots of interesting stuff again).

Ref. Thomas and others with regard to Alpha Centauri: of course, open door, it would only be worthwhile to aim such a telescope at AC once it was confirmed by less ambitious instruments that there was something really (REALLY) interesting to look at, and those other instruments may actually come up with other even more fascinating targets.
However, I think I understood that such a gravitational focus telescope would have to be moved around quite a bit in order to aim it at some other target, depending of course on the (angular) difference in position. This might make it a rather cumbersome instrument to use for relatively nearby target stars.
Wouldn&#039;t it be much more feasible and worthwhile to use such a gravitational focus telescope for a relatively distant and compact group of targets, such as e.g. (terrestrial) planet searches in the Andromeda galaxy, or even the Virgo cluster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Just back from my vacation in northern Italy; I got jealous of Paul so I went there myself with my family ;-) , and a lot of reading to catch up with, lots of interesting stuff again).</p>
<p>Ref. Thomas and others with regard to Alpha Centauri: of course, open door, it would only be worthwhile to aim such a telescope at AC once it was confirmed by less ambitious instruments that there was something really (REALLY) interesting to look at, and those other instruments may actually come up with other even more fascinating targets.<br />
However, I think I understood that such a gravitational focus telescope would have to be moved around quite a bit in order to aim it at some other target, depending of course on the (angular) difference in position. This might make it a rather cumbersome instrument to use for relatively nearby target stars.<br />
Wouldn&#8217;t it be much more feasible and worthwhile to use such a gravitational focus telescope for a relatively distant and compact group of targets, such as e.g. (terrestrial) planet searches in the Andromeda galaxy, or even the Virgo cluster?</p>
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		<title>By: Blade O'Grass</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-73173</link>
		<dc:creator>Blade O'Grass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not develop a four-bomb mini Orion/probe? Two blasts up, and two blasts to stop...or whatever floats your boat. Then all that&#039;s needed is a VASMIR or ion drive for station keeping. We have the technology; It tests the theory with a model, and it could be done within everybodies life time. 

I wanna see cute, fuzzy and blue colored Alpha Centaurian beings goin at it freestyle in the streets of their vesion of a New York city traffic snarl (the charnage)! Oh, and the astronomy would be good too. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not develop a four-bomb mini Orion/probe? Two blasts up, and two blasts to stop&#8230;or whatever floats your boat. Then all that&#8217;s needed is a VASMIR or ion drive for station keeping. We have the technology; It tests the theory with a model, and it could be done within everybodies life time. </p>
<p>I wanna see cute, fuzzy and blue colored Alpha Centaurian beings goin at it freestyle in the streets of their vesion of a New York city traffic snarl (the charnage)! Oh, and the astronomy would be good too. :)</p>
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		<title>By: hiro</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-73145</link>
		<dc:creator>hiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we can put LISA at 22.45 AU from Sol, then it&#039;ll be quiet interesting to observe what is going to happen in near term future. The major problem is that we have to wait at least 5 years for spacecrafts traveling to that distance.  Anyway, I think we can do this with our current technologies and it can be started  sometime  around 2020-30. The 550 AU mission heavily depends on ultra-modern propulsion technologies like fusion/antimatter rocket, so the mission period should be less than 25-30 years. Otherwise, we might have new technology to develop methods making faster spacecrafts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we can put LISA at 22.45 AU from Sol, then it&#8217;ll be quiet interesting to observe what is going to happen in near term future. The major problem is that we have to wait at least 5 years for spacecrafts traveling to that distance.  Anyway, I think we can do this with our current technologies and it can be started  sometime  around 2020-30. The 550 AU mission heavily depends on ultra-modern propulsion technologies like fusion/antimatter rocket, so the mission period should be less than 25-30 years. Otherwise, we might have new technology to develop methods making faster spacecrafts.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=8813&#038;cpage=1#comment-73122</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea, Wayne. I&#039;ll see if we can get someone on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea, Wayne. I&#8217;ll see if we can get someone on this.</p>
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